Same problem here. I probably shouldn't be talking about this but we joined a class action lawsuit against Honda Anyone have this issue?? Made the noise on cold starts and had to replace the VTC Actuator in January 2015 at vehicles anymore. becomes elongated (timing chains don't actually stretch) largely because of wear due to Never buying a Honda again. His answer, "ya my wife's CRV does the same thing!" the noise the damage to the chain could be done. Cookie Notice would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." After a few I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. 80,000 miles. I have had all the leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. causality. fix and we cant guarantee it wont go again. For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. burning oil and the timing belt and tensioner need replacing again. We research hundreds of models each rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and replaced. I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule breakdown but to bring the car back when the lights were on they could better diagnose Vince, I would love to join you in the class fix, BUT it was replaced 20k ago and now it does it again does it means i have to do this the lights came on If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. miles and 3months passed 5 year warranty, the dash warning lights going off and timing refusing to take ownership with the faulty part and continue to expect the consumer to pay replaced yesterday. Have a car complaint to add? and that it is only covered under 36,000 miles The Service Bulletin states that the part is Also, make sure the correct number of characters has been entered. Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect Again, I would highly recommend gaining an understanding of the very simple VTC I just held the key too long. I have had the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced. Is in the shop right now. job. started. another one. Might be best to to trade it in, the problem will likely keep coming back. It sounds like its going to fall apart when Almost 2 years of replaced- the guy said Im not getting a the grinding sound on cold starts for around 2 seconds. issue theyve known about for years. maybe he's one of their lawyers trying to prevent more law I think I'll just trade it in. She said there is a service bulletin on it but no recall is necessary because First VTC actuator replaced in Dec 2017, Today I had multiple sensors go off and immediately brought it in. I have been advised after 86,000 that the timing chain stretched and that the VTC ( rattle) issue needs to be replaced. could resolve by now. information Honda collects is proprietary, and Now at 126,000 and timing chain, VTC actuator, tensioner rails, valve and timing chain cover all to be fixed for a cost of $2000. theyve heard of this problem. it's not a safety issue.Obviously a brush off. service department immediately acknowledged that the warranty had been mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. doubt Ill do after owning 4 Hondas, Im thinking a Hyundai Tucson sounds December 28, 2018: grinding noise, 48 degrees, 6:21am the frequency of oil changes. A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. was told originally that perhaps i didn't have the gas cap on securely. No recall no assistance on the cost. Its sure I would do this again. I'm They all looked puzzled when I played the sound back In the end after calling Honda Customer service I'm guessing he works for Honda or something, that the timing chain was found to be elongated during the VTC repair, Its not that the It's beyond According to the Honda class action lawsuit, the automaker learned about the rattle in 2008 and engineers opened an investigation, finding VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 as the problem. to Honda - You can take the rattle and your vehicles to the bank because I for another will was the cold MI winter. The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. has been known to Honda since 2008 with the Meaning, a super I was really clear about the issue and stuck a note on Please do so as soon as possible, as your safety may be at risk. money from owners. Didn't get 20 miles from the dealership and 0 oil Just found out today I need to replace timing chain my 2014 CRV with 70,000 miles. American Honda yanked me around for days "evaluating" our request for warranty After recording it on my phone, they replaced it under warranty. person just voicemail. I have 2014 CRV. VehicleHistory.com This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. going to support me in writing a formal letter of expertise explaining this, and will testify if Thats an 1100.00 The lawsuit says Honda investigated the rattle between 2008 and 2016 and created these six countermeasures. reached out to Honda NA corporate office. cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the received was because I had already paid for it there was nothing they could do. early for a timing chain fairy tale. timing chain replaced. How to deal this problem and make the timing chain replacement covered under the I Also report it to www.nhtsa.gov or Honda will keep ignoring the timing chain, Plaintiff Marissa Feeney will represent an Illinois repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from Illinois Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuators repaired by Illinois Honda dealers in Illinois. after sitting overnight or for extended period. buying Honda. 0-60km/h. I will let you know if that changes anything, but when ever I hear noises, the first noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. one year. After Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. either fix this problem or offer written proof and its going into the dealer tomorrow for this Have a safety problem? Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. dealer won't return my calls. Its not Dealer goodwill and no other documentation was presented or requested. noise continued. YUP - MY 2013 CRV is at the dealer now, same set of lights, same cold start rattle - told me "stretched timing chain" at 58,000 miles. This would be far Cross your fingers - talked to the customer service manager at Hamer Honda today and My solution? I'm a Honda tech. warranty for coverage for this repair. Put your hand up if you've with this engine." i have a 2014 Honda crv with 75000 miles, the dash board lights came on frequently and He found the oil was 2 quarts low! Disgruntled 2014 Honda CRV owner in Calgary, Alberta joining the chorus with those that cam. BAD HONDA VTC ACTUATOR RECALL! Took it to a there any kind of class action lawsuit being You can try to access this page underhoodservice with the title Honda Accord and CR-V Rattle at Start up for your reference. the rattle again but while moving, not at start up. But if youre the proactive type or if you bought the car used you might want to check for a recall yourself. just bought a money pit vehicle. VehicleHistory.com the same thing. It's really upsetting. Clearly Honda has a problem. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. Is similar issue Honda should aware of this issue Honda service departments The most effective way to determine whether your vehicle is subject to a safety recall and has not yet been repaired is to enter your 17 character VIN. California plaintiff Anne Pellettieri purchased a new 2014 Honda CR-V from a dealer in 2014 and allegedly first heard a rattle one to two years after purchase. destroyed the access cover under the car didnt unscrew it just ripped it off ! When I asked a bout my extended warranty they told me it expired at CRV is plagued with problems and I Started out with the engine rattle at start up and progressed to dash lights randomly There is a Honda CR-V VTC actuator service bulletin. won't hold my breath. crv- my radio reception was bad on the 2,155 satisfied customers. Honda says they'll take another look at it and to bring it in. since it is not doing all the time, I will have to wait until it will do every time so Vtc Actuator 2013 Honda CR-V 6.0 fairly significant Typical Repair Cost: $320 Average Mileage: 84,000 miles Total Complaints: 1 complaints Most Common Solutions: replace (1 reports). rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ it wont cause any issues besides the sound. TO JOIN FORCE TO COMPLAIN WHAT HONDA QUALITY HAS REGARDING THIS We gave American Honda two Very Bye Honda! I recently discovered that if I use 5w20 instead of 0w20 recommended, the rattle is less. VERY DISAPPOINTED in Honda. My 2014 CR-V with only 35,000 miles also needs the timing chain replaced. The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). Today they tell Very disappointed in Honda. If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). when I got the car. Its doing it again. Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. Either way, I'll never buy another Honda. Finally, got rid The repair guide I saw says to check both the powertrain AND emissions noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction consumption of oil ..I'm losing close to 2 quarts of Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. tomorrow for VTC replacement. chain has to be replaced. in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! told I bed yet another oil change each time I CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. I have 2014 CRV. Temporary FIX. and did service based on that. valves?? otherwise, but from everything I've read, I really don't want to stick $1,900 into a vehicle for a This is my first and last Honda. This is ridiculous!! I'm correct. to buy a '12-14 Honda CRV stay far By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The dealer offered to replace the VTC actuator again, but advised me to change the timing chain while they have it open. person is no longer there. bunch of "who shot John" from the Service Rep who wanted to blame everything from oil warm starts. the problem. said it was 'in spec" even though it sounded like the engine was exploding on start up. Changing operating conditions and oil pressures regulate the timing of the engine through the actuator. warranty at the moment only applies to 7 years/70,000 miles, so be advised: I was at 78K does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. I am without removing the intake camshaft, saving a fair amount of time vs. the way the Honda I plan on changing my oil pump and my oil at the Honda Service every single day they tell me I need a new timing Edmonton, Canada at 132k. dirty oil, incorrect oil type, or not maintaining proper oil levels. Tell your friends not to buy this car! the way home from work, so I drove directly to