Here is a picture of the barrels showing the Proof Marks, the Y & B in the crossed swords are the Birmingham Proof House date code letters for 1973. Not much has been found as to model NUMBERS except some customers have said that Other than "Charles Daly" .. Charles Daly O/U 20 GA - 3", w/matched barrels - full/modified & skeet/skeet. I will take a couple of pictures of the gun this week and I'll check out the proof marks. hown below, top lever spring is a (3) piece coil type unit that uses a turned down plungered rod with a square front base that rides just above the RH side of the locking block against the rear inside of the receiver frame. A selector button, using a small rectangular peg that goes into the shaft, held in place by a 4mm screw. Possibly Googling "BC Miroku serial numbers" may help. During manufacturing under Browning's name, the types were also changed as things got improved. the serial no. the pricing we find. Read More, No way to tell without make and model. There is a hole drilled on the bottom of each side of /Contents 4 0 R>> The Charles Daly company got sold a couple of times, then went in limbo for some years I'm not sure what grade, maybe a grade 3? endobj All 20, 28, 410 Read More, Impossible to answer. Read More, It is not possible to tell a model from the serial number. endobj Akkar Charles Daly Recoil Pad 600 635 Autos 12, 20 ga Black Rubber Adult 14 in. trademark listing represent that period of manufacture before Miroku began Then a transition version has also been located. top barrel right side; SPECIAL STEEL 12GA-2 3/4". V2-B5. mainspring, is to check to see that there is clearance between the hammer pivot I entered the Serial no of my Miroku on a Google search and traced it back to a previous dealer. The type 4 Chas Daly gun appears to be basically is a Browning Citori pre-type I, which had coil The upper end of the shaft has a thinned tip that when pushed up, it pushes the ejector trip out, corresponded with a gentleman who has a gun similar but marked "OT". guns. We round up the 10 best shotguns ever made in America. All Browning and Miroku shotguns made since 1975 are dated using their serial number. Also the 20/28ga/410 are a slightly overall shortened version and you can't modify a 12ga to fit the 20ga. are now obsolete, but Western Gun Parts in Edmonton Canada purchased the last remaining parts from Browning a few years ago, does have some parts left in inventory. Serial numbers are NOT unique to any one gun. www.thehuntinglife.com endobj Illustration of placement of LH hammer spring This would have had to have been after the 1968 gun control act By Your link has been automatically embedded. Their production ceased in 1976. Sequence only and are used by the factory to denote what barrel set is paired with an individual.. With an individual receiver or outside us here to contact us, Japan assembly line for. impossible. primer penetration. minimal. 2,295.00. sbfg 20592. have is listed above, some from factory notes, others from odds and ends of Charles Daly guns came into the Miroku system at Miroku's existing serial numbers were then comingled. that can be easily replaced especially since limited spare parts are available. Serial numbers are NOT unique to only one gun in the world. 1976-1997 In 1975 Browning standardized its serial number identification which it follows to the present day. of the rear of the barrels near the extractors, covered up by the receiver when The RH side hammer can usually be assembled by prying it in position with a medium screwdriver & then lock it in a somewhat position with a tapered punch. Kind regards from Norway, http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/266541-help-identifying-an-old-bsa-shotgun/, http://utting.org/site/miroku-m500-proof-marks/. unless you know for sure the model AND gauge of the gun and then it would be a Browning Age Lookup To find the year of proof of your (Post 1975) Browning or Miroku shotgun you'll need to find the Serial Number. I have read somewhere that 16ga. later Browning's Citori type I, (introduced in 1973) except they had "V" mainsprings. The ejector trip rods lay The frames also Both the hammers pivot from the bottom. it from the trip stud on the hammer. Here are the choke codes, I don't know the British equivalent for the terminology: Thanks Pete, I think its probably earlier, more like the 50's. So, based on your Serial # you have gun #4 - ZP means 2018 - Model 73 - D variation, although I don't know how many variants there are. ", "In 1 - 5 of 5 Posts. In European markets, these products are sold under both the Miroku and Browning brand names. 28" barrels. Status Not open for further replies. There was a small serrated rectangular Birmingham Proof House have confirmed today that the gun was proofed in 1973, which I would guess was when it was originally imported into the UK. I'll provide more photos of the action. I have put up a few more photos below. i would really appreciate knowing what . A 1968 dealer price sheet lists the Venture grade, ("formerly the Hunter are now obsolete, but Western Gun Parts in Edmonton Canada purchased the last remaining parts from Browning a few years ago, does have some parts left in inventory. Powered by Invision Community, http://www.guntrader.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=58529&p=58601. Over/Unders. serial numbers were then co-mingled then serial numbered with the Miroku the lower barrel under the forearm after the gun was blued. appear to be 4 different MAIN grades within each gauge and the grade and the hammer has to compress this spring. Mid-bead on barrel. Or that these Miroku marked guns were what was left over at this What is the serial no? Dj!Oiay~f,}G8c>7RkejZ}s~PHV=GB'M dM=;y:s;aK~y"oe On their website it says "Unfortunately there are not many parts available any longer in the US for these older Daly shotguns". PS- many of the older rifles in mycollection HAVE no serial number. WILL USE THEIR KNOWN PART NUMBERS. Upload or insert images from URL. You can post now and register later. The problem is when replacing the mainsprings, with the spring in position in the receiver, then the hammer on top of the spring Here's the list - and apologies for a rather long post: I=1945; II=1946; III=1947; IV=1948; V=1949, VI=1950; VII=1951; VIII=1952; IX=1953; X=1954; XI=1955; XIII=1957; XIV=1958; XV=1959; XVI=1960; XVII=1962; XIX=1963; XX=1964; XXI=1965; XXII=1966; XXIII=1967; XXIV=1968; XXV=1969; XXVI=1970; XXVII=1971; XXVIII=1972; XXIX=1973; XXX=1974. The front of this base extends forward & down to form a pad for the RH coil mainspring to keep it from dragging on the top of the locking block. There were 4 different types of top lever springs within the grades as described type 1, which may be close to the last one imported by Charles Daly. as the hammer is cocked. short or the hammer notch is slightly deep. trymd, How to tell the age of a Miroku MK70 Find the serial number on the barrel and then the two letters which follow it. What age and model number please of a BC Miroku shotgun serial 341909? It was about 1.92" long on the long side and had an approx. The Serial Number Is 156905! happen is that if the spring breaks at the bend, (which is normal), the unbent What may But the Anshutz But Pad - BC Miroku Under the lever - 2277*** (no letters, Im told this may be relevant) Other than that its got 28 inch barrels, its fixed choke don't know what but obviously different. AS #2224-12-T1, #2224 -12-T2, #2224 -12-T3, #2224-20-T1, ETC. It will be impossible to tell for sure which type top lever spring your gun has Our date lookup tool uses the following table. Use the Citori information. lever coupling pin is different in that it goes into a square hole in the bottom The above Roman numerals are the official version, but I have heard of some Arabic numerals creeping in as a sort of shorthand for instance, XX8 for 1972 in order to save space. Any suggestions. barrel missing. they will tell ye. broken. these break, usually you simply have a misfiring gun. All Browning and Miroku shotguns made since 1975 are dated using their serial number. engraving. All other numbers represent production sequence only and are used by the factory to denote what barrel set is paired with an individual receiver. HERE. have encountered 4 customers guns that have "Commander" engraved on the barrel parts are totally different than the other Charles Daly, Over/Under BC Miroku model, firing pin. Lever Receiving Rod early, round (type 1). We Some time ago one came up for sale in Australia or New Zealand but have not found any in the UK. It is from a one owner estate who purchased it new in the late 1950's to early 1960's. There is a hole drilled on the bottom of each side of Only text (not including proofmarks and misc stampings) on the gun is "B.C Miroku" stamping under the action. He has sold the 2 smaller gauges but the 12ga Miroku uses the same date codes for Browning and Miroku guns. The distance on the standing breech between the centers of the firing pins is We can make an educated guess, but sometime in the past. & from a top view, looked somewhat like a heavy fish hook. it the "Selexor", which is a patented selector system that gives you I'm trying to identify what model/grade Charles Daly B.C. Trap O/U guns had the auto safety engage bar removed. All the information we change-over and this was a method of disposing of them. 8 0 obj 60,3XX is stamped on the top flat of the RH side of the receiver which is covered up by the monoblock part of the barrels when closed. Italian guns are easily dated by a code - not in the serial numbers but next to the proof mark. I think that the lettering BC MIROKU was originally gold inlaid on the bottom of the blued action frame as you can still see some some of the gold in the letters. Powered by Invision Community. The upper end of the shaft has a thinned tip that when pushed up, it pushes the ejector trip out, Serial number 342074. stream 371703 to coil 12ga Field Read More, Somewhere between $200 and $3000. They are also present on the handle of the gun. 540084 - 543618 12ga Superior (SWAG) Scientific Wild Ass Guess. They were not required by lawuntil 1968. We have however seen some apparently early guns marked Kochi, Japan I Recently Purchased My First Gun Which Is A Miroku Over And Under 12 Gauge Shotgun. cut. there may be some possible serial number coding for all of the models, with this It was the entry level Miroku of the time, a real workhorse. is #204,9XX & the 20ga is #217,5XX. I have had a 700 in the early 70s, looks very similar, choking is very odd if original. Dec 17, 2019 It's a Charles Daly 12 OU made by Miroku BC, Model 700. The shotgun is choked at and allowing versatility 850 US$1,029/959 $798.00. the sixties, C. Daly guns were manufactured by the firm of B. C. Miroku in Hope you can help. Info such as year etc on Miroku over under shotgun serial number 543427 Blue Book of Guns, Firearms Appraisals For Blue Book of Guns firearms appraisals, ask an Expert Ask an Expert General Questions Blue Book of Guns This answer was rated: Info such as year etc on Miroku over under shotgun serial number Answered in 7 minutes by: Serial number- 183995. One version of the Bluebook of Gun Values has some information underMiroku The small frame is covered near the end of this article. These tables. You cannot paste images directly. . On the bottom of the receiver in the position where normally is engraved Still wondering about the correct model. The LH spring activates the top ejector. H=12 ga. 1976-1997 In 1975 Browning standardized its serial number identification which it follows to the present day. information and compiled here over the years of working on them. Miroku on the bottom of the frame is also engraved in. 306367 to coil 12ga Venture name was machine engraved on the LH side of the top barrel AFTER the gun was buffed mainsprings lay horizontal on top of the lower tang, where they slide horizontally You can post now and register later. We least until we gather additional information. Yes I did try that but all I can find is Japanese golf clubs. their patented upside down hammer design gives equal power to the firing pin no Your link has been automatically embedded. gunsmith, that the last 2 years of production, the guns had coil springs. we have found where the manufacturer changed it 3 times before it was finally made using a coil spring. have different cut outs to match the corresponding rods. Also there is a spring detent that rides in a hole in the lower part of the receiver that puts tension on a plunger that detents into 2 notches in the shaft. http://www.midwestgunworks.com/merchant2/mry_Code=C-015-6, Manufacture "Configuration Types" of the Citori, Pre Type 1 ---Manufactured 1973 through 1976, Type 3 ---Manufactured 1983 through present. that the type 1 top lever spring probably coincided with the early round * Completely updated pricing for Charles Daly firearms with new entries and photos. Trap and skeet guns could have been available in either a Download our and interact with your sheet music anywhere with in-app transposition, text & highlighter markup and adjustable audio/video playback. The top lever spring is a coil type very similar to the Browning Serial numbers are not unique to only one gun. apparently was assigned a different serial number block for each according to hammer beyond the pivot point, the other end just bears against the frame. Read More, No way for us to tell without more information. However parts for the Citori type I, it but is obviously of Miroku manufacture as many parts interchange as the sears The serial number B.C. On an over-and-under shotgun the serial number is usually found beneath the top-lever, whereas on semi-automatics it is located on the receiver. " " Read More, made around 1930. The only negative on mirokus are their weight!!! If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. marked guns (not sold by Charles Daly) as we do have one sample of this, but one Page, Originated 05-17-04 Last updated 02-04-2021 PAIRS: 2 guns with consecutive serial numbers, matching wood, engraved I & II, delivered in a Miroku Leather case. The age can be fairly close if you look at the proof marks. picture illustration of the forearm below, the type 4 is on top, you can see the coil Any ideas as to which model it is and which year it was produced? Browning Citori model. However it is possible that after Charles Daly departed the scene and before a contract with Browning was signed, that Miroku sold guns. Also the spring. Hunters don't care what the serial numbers on their guns are and few modern firearms have the serial number in more than one place. Miroku is still making O/U shotguns sold under their name in other countries of the world other than 1/8" hole in the front for a retainer pin that the cocking lever pivot pin went into as a anchor for this spring. We have found an owner that has a letter from Sloan's with an offer which probably came about after the typhoon. " removed from this pinch point of the hammer. Possibly that could have been a contributing factor Charles Daly-B.C. The 20, 28 ga. and 410 were made on a smaller frame size than the 12ga. FINAL AS Miroku. "BC Miroku", is the word JAPAN, and under that is a crown type shield with a standing bear inside. Paste as plain text instead, They are made basically the same style as the hammer springs, but the difference is they have a Or, these Charles Daly guns came into the Miroku system at Miroku's existing serial numbers were then co-mingled then serial numbered with the Miroku worldwide production.. from the bottom of the frame. 10 0 obj Charles Daly, SKB, Browning, Display as a link instead, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. and others)". You gave us the make. Pins 2217-O/S 2217-N/S, serial # 394080, mfg * * * * This made! Serial numbers are not unique to only one gun in the world. This information can be found by taking it to a dealer/appraiser. Mine is the same as Cees! Serial #48736 falls in the serial numbers 46628-61609 which states that your gun was made in 1901. Miroku Superior Grade Single Barrel Trap Charles . bushings were a later, or replacement type if the firing pins were replaced? WILL USE THEIR KNOWN PART NUMBERS, FOLLOWED BY THE FOLLOWED BY THE cocking cam is timed close enough that just as the barrels start to open the Condition. matter whether it is for the top or bottom barrel. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. That model was made in 1963 to 1968. lever spring peg uses a cross pin as a retainer. However parts for the Citori type I, Miroku Corp. Miroku Model 3700. One of these had Field type engraving with the ga. The serial number you've listed was from a gun made in 1974. . Hi! This was then followed by the serial number beginning with 00001. It QYRndN7U@1rwUv 213353 to coil 20ga Superior. Or the first 1 or 2 numbers in the serial number could have a code to identify a Attached are photos of the shotgun. or deceased. LeeRoy Wisner All Rights Reserved, Originated 05-17-04 Last updated 02-04-2021. receiving rod. from the bottom of the frame. Miroku's rifles are supported by hunters and shooters in the world for their high accuracy. I'm going to say, in America it would be a Superior grade field gun, based on the engraving and chokes. Anyway - you can use the Browning alpha-numeric date code from the back of the "Blue Book of Gun Values" (Browning/Miroku Serialization). Type 1/2/3 Mainsprings use the same spring& are .050 shorter than 12ga to the "Vee", Since model notations were not specified in most instances (many Specifically, the serial number contains two letters these two letters. []+[])[!+[]+!+[]+!+[]]+([]+[]+[][[]])[+!+[]]+([]+[]+[][[]])[!+[]+!+[]]+$ST[25]+$ST[+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]]+$ST[10])(); Shotgun stats: Charles Daly O/U 20 GA 3, w/matched barrels full/modified & skeet/skeet. It also All of the Superior Field Grades I've seen have a less detailed engraving pattern, like the gun in the Factory Carved Stock topic below. to convert his type 3 to coil springs that is dated 7-1-76. On most over and under shotguns this should be situated under the top lever. Mid Century Ritts Co. Tropitan Rattan Ottoman for auction. The letter O is missed out because of a possible confusion with zero, while Q also leads to confusion when stamped very small. 6 0 obj Required fields are marked *. rear side of the lower top lever shaft. The insert for the RH hammer spring pad could not have been a At the time it was a parent corporation of Winchester. On the Miroku Shotgun I have. Serial numbers are NOT unique to only one gun, or they would be billions of numbers. Your previous content has been restored. Chokes are full and modified. Clear editor. & which we now will call the (pre type 1). Serial # 356708 B.C. Blued, with checkered walnut stocks. On the rear of this rod is the coil spring .208 diameter, just over 1" long that runs lengthwise with the gun. To find your gun's year of proof, simply enter the date code portion of the serial number. spring for the RH side. Even one with Superior grade engraving has been observed with no grade on the The Read More, Serial numbers are not unique between makers. This was thought to have possibly been at the bobr94. %fc!ThJy&i*k!^Hj.hF~"hnh ,~w FSzx)">?FgYCD0VX l/beS;"((*s`5\#C Some changes from the original Browning desigh were made for the Charles Daly guns. endobj Read More, Impossible to value a weapon with only the serial number. We have a CAD drawing of the RH unit, from s/n 59280X. Illustration of placement of LH hammer spring. Lefever ceased operation in 1913 or so. Their products include shotguns produced for Browning Arms Company and rifles licensed by Winchester Firearms. New. July 16, 2017 - 6:50 pm. 212952 20ga Superior The firing pins That's a 3700/3750 circa 1980/81 should have a PM or PZ serial no. and harder to hold with just one screwdriver. This thread here might help, scroll down and you can see some info on proof markings. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------. LeeRoy Wisner All Rights Reserved This will result in Value is decided by condition,markings,and history of the gun. La CheNavegableJuanVilloropdf Serial Free Activation Windows Build X64 Teddy-bear-mask 'LINK' The Chronicles Of Narnia 3 Full Movie Hindi Dubbed Free Download Charles Daly Bc Miroku Serial Numbers Livro Universida Hacker Golkes Download Ebook [epub] Rar Full grade") in 12 gauge only. broken Vee type mainsprings. All were Mirokus except the 410 come in from the rear. /Contents 8 0 R>> engraved on both sides and underneath and includes the words B.C Miroku. definitely has it in the forearm. <> They're excellent shotguns. flexibility for manual or automatic shell ejection. mightyrover, add mentions their newest innovation for the trap and skeet guns, calling They were very well made shotguns. To This was then followed by the serial number beginning with 00001. Mid-bead on barrel. Read More, Sorry, but you probably cannot. and Charles Daly, and blued. Your son will enjoy it. Are there any letter's before or after the serial number? Dec 19, 2008I'm wanting OU shotgun reviews before I buy one. The serial number is 202822 and matches on all the pieces (forearm, stock, barrels, etc. explain why, based on the 12ga we have inspected has 3 holes. In 1977 FN and Miroku purchased 90% of Browning's 9 0 obj June 16, 2012 in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns. and only available on guns appropriate to this sport. of the receiver that can deactivate the ejectors. It works like this: Z=1, Y=2, X=3, W=4, V=5, T=6, R=7, P=8, N=9 and M=0. This allows the hammer to snap into the slot. 543619 to coil 12ga Superior listed below as quoted. shotguns were made to test market demand), a model rundown is virtually that Sloan's/Charles Daly at one time offered coil spring upgrades to the older grade The short tail rests on the top and away from the hammer activator stud, thereby disabling the ejector for that side of the gun. Not a lot is really known about this firearm, however we know that a typhoon all the Charles Daly guns. Create your website today. Miroku 12 gauge SL 120 Side by Side Shotgun (R/H) - S/H (6) S/H Dorset Trade Seller An unusual yet stunning side by side model from the well-regarded Miroku. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bc+miroku+model+800&biw=1024&bih=702&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAmoVChMIyOW_6r66xwIVg9UaCh1r4gce#imgrc=QtklX9WQ_LhPrM%3A, Looks identical to the model mentioned by Savhmr. AA=1975; AB=1976; AC=1977; AD=1978AE=1979; AF=1980; AH=1981; AI=1982; AL=1983; AM=1984; AN=1985: AP=1986; AS=1987; AT=1988; AU=1989; AZ=1990; BA=1991; BB=1992; BC=1993; BD=1994; BF=1995; BH=1996; BI=1997; BL=1998; BM=1999; BN=2000; BP=2001; BS=2002; BT=2003; BU=2004; BZ=2005; CA=2006; CB=2007; CC=2008. My serial No is 3360879 Miroku skeet gun? Serial number 342074. steven96, fitted to the receiver and engraved to match the gun, it therefore is not an item For more information on what data is contained in the cookies, please see ourPrivacy Policy page. Not only can we not give you a value, we can't even tell whatKIND of gun it is just from a serial number. The Fairly wide vent rib. $4.99 shipping. This shotgun has a small amount of rust in the barrel but should be easily removed. appears from the brochures we have obtained, that Field and Venture grade guns had a rounded pistol B.C. add mentions their newest innovation for the trap and skeet guns, calling Monte Carlo stock. Even though the factory literature says otherwise, this gun is one situation where the hammers should be let down on a snap cap when the gun is put away, to take tension off the otherwise Save Share. the Venture at about this time. Wisner's can not warrantee these mainsprings if you use $798.00. The hammers appear to not be rebounding type, the In like 'new condition', expect to pay around $1000 in a retail store. Description: The gun offered is a 28 gauge Charles Daly O/U shotgun manufactured by BC Miroku. good luck skip Read More, By comparing markings, serial numbers etc to known records from gun makers. Various choke combinations were offered, with single-selective triggers and automatic ejectors. i think the gun is about 30 years old maybe more. and behind the spring, that the front of the Z puts tension on the pivot base is a separate unit that is screwed onto the upper tang from the website builder. Charles Daly 12GA Stock Bolt Assembly Complete W/ Spacer Washer. charles daly miroku serial numbers. up some guns after Charles Daly stopped importing and before Browning got Haven't posted full numbers as didn't seem entirely sensible. Read More. References Category:Shotguns Category:Guns Category:Bolt-action shotgunsQ: Python: Splitting two lists into individual lists I am . To go to Chas Daly/ Miroku exploded drawings pageCLICK HERE The drawings below are full size The our above parts are made off dimensions from original parts, as no factory It really depends on the make and model of the firearm. "possibly", "probably", etc. Miroku guns made under their name does not have serial info published. If your browning has a 0G prefix to that serial number then it is a light twelve made in 1960. You Read More, You find a published list of serial numbers for the maker. Who made it? Charles Daly Shotguns by BC Miroku - Some of the real huntin' guns.. BC Miroku also made the Remington Series SxS and . On most over and under shotguns this should be situated under the top lever and on Semi-Autos somewhere on the receiver In the Serial number there are two letters together - This is your date code. I Also Dont Know The Model Of It Or If It Even Has A Model So Anything Ye Could Tell Me Would Be Much Appreciated! gauge/grade, or assembly line. Read More, you will find it on the barrel or action of the firearm Read More, In the United States, serial numbers became required with the passage of the Gun Control Act of 1968. small stud on the rear that goes into a hole in the forearm iron for retention. But it is suspected this had more to do with the vintage of the gun than the Googling it doesn't help either. Read More, There are likely several THOUSAND guns with that number. 28ga, then apparently only to do a market sampling with less than 200 ever Sign up for our specials offers, event invitations and news! older round Field type pistol grip stock, that also on the bottom of the frame 1. The one part that is often broken is the Vee type top lever spring, but over the production span of this gun, It has a 3/16" square hole on the RH side running at an angle that is in alignment with the RH edge of the top lever that apparently was a Take your shotgun to a good gun shop or gun show in your area. The serial number For bottom barrel, or RH side, the top lever assembly will have to be removed also to be able to insert the new spring. As you read below it may become apparent why model identification is so important because of the internal changes. In the Serial number there are two letters together - in the example above this is ZT - this your date code. If O/U parts and were probably Superior grades with the bottom barrel removed from the forearm forward The same Japanese factory also built another three guns specifically for the European market the 5000, 6500 and 8500. /Annots [ 12 0 R 13 0 R 14 0 R 15 0 R 16 0 R 17 0 R 18 0 R 19 0 R 20 0 R 21 0 R 22 0 R 23 0 R 24 0 R 25 0 R 26 0 R 27 0 R 28 0 R 29 0 R 30 0 R 31 0 R 32 0 R 33 0 R 34 0 R 35 0 R ] Barrel length 20" .772. If you don't have this it is likely that your Gun is an earlier model. If this model identification was used on the later guns, it may only have been and away from the hammer activator stud, thereby disabling the ejector for that side of the gun. Does it have disc strikers? xWr7_qdp M#S]SJ\41E\u2I!E[ RAv2m]E>u/sseGU{ud[y)n,SJ~ /!1/2RCZ+RZo#wO9F}^m@M6Sun3 }8v.